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Holocaust Denial on Trial, Trial Transcripts, Day 15: Electronic Edition
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That is very helpful. That takes us to Wednesday
116th, I think. A day off will be the Thursday but, if I
2schedule Dr Longerich for Friday 18th, there is a risk
3that he will not be needed because Professor Evans does
4not finish until Thursday.
5 MR IRVING: Longerich is based in England, is he not?
6 MR RAMPTON: He is partly based in England and partly in
7Munich. If your Lordship would like me to, I will
8provisionally schedule him for Friday 18th, subject to
9Thursday being a clear day. If it is not, then we can
10bring him on Monday of the following week.
11 MR JUSTICE GRAY: He is kind of the last in the band anyway.
12 MR RAMPTON: He is the most flexible.
13 MR JUSTICE GRAY: He is the last too, is he not?
14 MR RAMPTON: No. There is Professor Funke, the Berlin
15political scientist.
16 MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes. We have it mapped out for a sufficient
17period of time to enable plans to be made.
18 MR RAMPTON: Yes we have.
19 MR RAMPTON: Yes certainly.
20 MR JUSTICE GRAY: So what now?
21 MR RAMPTON: I am bit sterile about ideas because I do not have
22further questions on anything else.
23 MR IRVING: You are not going to cross-examine on the
24Adjutants?
25 MR RAMPTON: No. I think probably I am not going to.
26 MR JUSTICE GRAY: When you say probably, it is getting towards
1the time when it has to be certain.
2 MR RAMPTON: If I say I am not going to examine on the
3Adjutants and then I come back next week and say, Oh,
4I would like to cross-examine on the Adjutants, I foresee
5a problem. I prefer to leave it in the air, although the
6air in that particular balloon, if I do not do it now, is
7probably going to be fairly restricted. Can I put it like
8that?
9 MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes. I think that is right really.
10 MR RAMPTON: I well understand the problem.
11 MR JUSTICE GRAY: I know you have had quite a task too.
12 MR RAMPTON: If I do not take the opportunity now I may have a
13problem, I well understand, in trying to find another way.
14 MR JUSTICE GRAY: I am not going to make a ruling one way or
15the other at the moment.
16 MR RAMPTON: I am grateful for that.
17 MR JUSTICE GRAY: I do not think it is a bad thing from
18Mr Irving's point of view or, to be honest, from my point
19of view if we have a short day today because I have fallen
20a bit behind, too.
21 MR RAMPTON: I am not only slightly behind, I am, like
22Mr Irving and no doubt your Lordship, quite tired as well
23so I would not at all mind.
24 MR JUSTICE GRAY: Mr Irving, does it not really suit you quite
25well that we should have a short day?
26 MR IRVING: It does indeed, my Lord. I have a business to run
1and a family to run.
2 MR JUSTICE GRAY: Of course. So what it comes to is 10.30 on
3Monday.
4 MR RAMPTON: I am grateful.
5 (Adjourned until 10.30 on Monday, 7th February 2000)
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116th, I think. A day off will be the Thursday but, if I
2schedule Dr Longerich for Friday 18th, there is a risk
3that he will not be needed because Professor Evans does
4not finish until Thursday.
5 MR IRVING: Longerich is based in England, is he not?
6 MR RAMPTON: He is partly based in England and partly in
7Munich. If your Lordship would like me to, I will
8provisionally schedule him for Friday 18th, subject to
9Thursday being a clear day. If it is not, then we can
10bring him on Monday of the following week.
11 MR JUSTICE GRAY: He is kind of the last in the band anyway.
12 MR RAMPTON: He is the most flexible.
13 MR JUSTICE GRAY: He is the last too, is he not?
14 MR RAMPTON: No. There is Professor Funke, the Berlin
15political scientist.
16 MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes. We have it mapped out for a sufficient
17period of time to enable plans to be made.
18 MR RAMPTON: Yes we have.
19 MR RAMPTON: Yes certainly.
20 MR JUSTICE GRAY: So what now?
21 MR RAMPTON: I am bit sterile about ideas because I do not have
22further questions on anything else.
23 MR IRVING: You are not going to cross-examine on the
24Adjutants?
25 MR RAMPTON: No. I think probably I am not going to.
26 MR JUSTICE GRAY: When you say probably, it is getting towards
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1the time when it has to be certain.
2 MR RAMPTON: If I say I am not going to examine on the
3Adjutants and then I come back next week and say, Oh,
4I would like to cross-examine on the Adjutants, I foresee
5a problem. I prefer to leave it in the air, although the
6air in that particular balloon, if I do not do it now, is
7probably going to be fairly restricted. Can I put it like
8that?
9 MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes. I think that is right really.
10 MR RAMPTON: I well understand the problem.
11 MR JUSTICE GRAY: I know you have had quite a task too.
12 MR RAMPTON: If I do not take the opportunity now I may have a
13problem, I well understand, in trying to find another way.
14 MR JUSTICE GRAY: I am not going to make a ruling one way or
15the other at the moment.
16 MR RAMPTON: I am grateful for that.
17 MR JUSTICE GRAY: I do not think it is a bad thing from
18Mr Irving's point of view or, to be honest, from my point
19of view if we have a short day today because I have fallen
20a bit behind, too.
21 MR RAMPTON: I am not only slightly behind, I am, like
22Mr Irving and no doubt your Lordship, quite tired as well
23so I would not at all mind.
24 MR JUSTICE GRAY: Mr Irving, does it not really suit you quite
25well that we should have a short day?
26 MR IRVING: It does indeed, my Lord. I have a business to run
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1and a family to run.
2 MR JUSTICE GRAY: Of course. So what it comes to is 10.30 on
3Monday.
4 MR RAMPTON: I am grateful.
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