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David Irving: A Political Self-Portrait: Electronic Edition

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2. Racism

[2/A]INTERVIEWER: Are you a racist?
IRVING: Well, are you using the word racist in a, in a, in a derogatory sense? This is it you see, you want to use the word in a derogatory sense. If we look for a different word, which has the same connotations as racist without the same flavor and say, am I a patriot, yes.
INTERVIEWER: They're not the same word at all.
IRVING: It is exactly the same word. I'm proud of being white and I'm proud of being British.
INTERVIEWER: You went to Britain to be white?
IRVING: Yes. [P's interview for 'Cover Story' (Australian television) 4 March 1997: K4, Tab. 8, pp. 6-7]
[2/B][In Africa Irving observed that the black man] 'With his family, his goat, and his shack he happy [...] What a sad end of Empire for the English: what an abject, unwarranted capitulation of wisdom before ignorance, of the brave before the brutal, of a whole nation to the dictates of an uncivilized world!' [David Irving Diaries (Vol. 57), 23 February 1992: K4, Tab. 10, p. 26 ]
[2/C][Irving sang racist ditties with his young daughter Jessica. He noted in his diary] 'There are two other poems in which she stars: My name is Baby Jessica / I've got a pretty dress-ica / But now it's in a mess-ica. And, more scurrilously, that when half-breed children are wheeled past:
I am a Baby Aryan
Not Jewish or Sectarian
I have no plans to marry-an
Ape or Rastafarian.
Benté [the mother of Jessica] is suitably shocked.' [David Irving Diaries (Vol. 60), 17 September 1994: K4, Tab. 10, p. 38]
[2/D]'For the last four weeks just for once I have gone away from London, where I have been sitting, down to Torquay, which is a white community. We saw perhaps one black man and one coloured family in the whole time I was down there. I am not anti-coloured, take it from me; nothing pleases me more than when I arrive at an airport, or a station, or a seaport, and I see a coloured family there - the black father, the black wife and the black children....When I see these families arriving at the airport I am happy (and when I see them leaving at London airport I am happy. [Cheers and Laughter]. But if there is one thing that gets up my nose, I must admit, it is this -- the way...the thing is when I am down in Torquay and I switch on my television and I see one of them reading our news to us. It is our news and they're reading it to me. (If I was a chauvinist I would even say I object even to seeing women reading our news to us.) ["Hear, hear", and Laughter]
Because basically international news is a serious thing and I yearn for the old days of Lord Reith, when the news reader on the BBC, which was the only channel in those times, wore a dinner jacket and bow tie and rose to the occasion [...] But now we have women reading out news to us. If they could perhaps have their own news which they were reading to us I suppose [Laughter], it would be very interesting. [Good-natured female heckling].
For the time being, for a transitional period I'd be prepared to accept that the BBC should have a dinner-jacketed gentleman reading the important news to us, following by a lady reading all the less important news, followed by Trevor Macdonald giving us all the latest news about the muggings and the drug busts - [rest lost in loud Laughter and Applause].'[P's Clarendon Club speech, 19 September 1992: K4, Tab. 5, pp. 10-11]
[2/E][In answer to the rhetorical question of why, in his mind, why ethnic minorities have 'a very high profile' on television, Irving replied] 'The answer is of course, they're trying to force this multicultural, this multi-ethnic mix, what Winston Churchill himself called a kind of artists sludge [...] And he [Churchill] knew what he was saying, because he was speaking back in the 1940s and 1950s before this appalling national tragedy.' [P's speech to the Clarendon Club, 19 September 1992: K4, Tab. 5, p. 11]
[2/F]'...and the Conservatives, I think we're all ashamed to say, bear the greatest blame for what's happened to this country over the last 30 years, this act of self-immolation, when you consider that more coloured immigrants are now in this country, 3 times as many as the size of the army with which Adolf Hitler invaded Russia in 1941. You can see the size of the invasion that we have passively, silently and cowardly and cravenly succumbed to in this country. Worst than that of course, anybody who objects to it in this country has to watch his language very closely, as [unintelligible] who's in our presence today knows, have to watch your language very carefully in order not to fall foul, fall foul of the full majesty of the law.'[P's speech at Bow Town Hall, 29 May 1992: K4, Tab.4, p. 2]
[2/G]INTERVIEWER: ..you were quoted on, Mr Irving, you were quoted on radio in Australia yesterday saying it makes you queasy seeing black men playing cricket for England. Can you explain to us what you mean by that?
IRVING: Well I think probably if you spoke to a lot of English people they'd, they'd find the same thing but not many of them are prepared to say it in public. You see there's so much intimidation in our so-called liberal free democratic society that that people are forced to live an almost schizophrenic existence. They make statements in public which they consider to be safe but privately at the back of their heads they think differently and I say what I think. And, I'm queasy when I see, now you see I was born in England in 1938 and people will know what I'm saying now, 1938 England was a different country from the way England is now and I'm unhappy to see what we have done to England. We've abdicated, we've committed a kind of international hari kari, we've inflicted great misery on ourselves with coloured immigration and we've inflicted, let's be frank, we've inflicted misery on the coloured immigrants as well. It's a kind of 20th century slave trade. I don't like it and I'm queasy about it and I'm frank enough to say it and no-one's going to prevent me from speaking my mind about it.' [P's interview for the Holmes Show (New Zealand television) 4 June 1993: K3, Tab. 16, pp. 3-4]
[2/H]'Patriotism always involves a certain degree of hostility to foreigners. In fact people sometimes say to me, "Mr. Irving, racism." And I say, "You tell me this: what is the difference between racism and patriotism?" They're both two ways of describing the same kind of elemental xenophobia that exists in every human being that God created.' [P's interview for This Week, 28 November 1991: K3, tab 12, pp. 10-11]
[2/I][Setting out a speech he would have made at the Oxford Union had he not been prevented by a 'campaign of slanders and smear'] '..the compulsory repatriation of Blacks from this country is never likely to command an overwhelming majority of votes. True, as both public polls and our postbag show, British citizens as a whole are in favour, but they will hesitate to vote for any policy which may attract the opprobrium of the rest of the world, or drag Britain's name in the mud. Why not therefore adopt a Benevolent Repatriation policy [...] if the introduction of a compulsory repatriation programme is likely to meet with delay, then let us start first with a Benevolent Repatriation scheme as outlined in FP, Dec. 20. The one does not preclude the other.' [Focal Point, 8 March 1982; K4, Tab. 10, p. 7]
[2/J]'I said many years ago, I think that it is time to find some way of persuading the, the ethnic minorities in this country who are unhappy and are causing much unhappiness both to themselves and to others by their presence here to find an upright and honest manner in which we can transport them back, in a benevolent manner, to their homelands if they wish to go.
But we have to make it attractive to them. We have to provide them with full economy, uh, a full employment to which they can return. We can't send them back to unemployment; if you pay them five thousand pounds to leave from Heathrow they'll come back in through Prestwick, and leave again through Heathrow and it'll be the biggest stage army since Henry the Fifth! [Laughter] So my views are given roughly there.' [P's speech to the Clarendon Club', 19 September 1992: K4, Tab. 5, pp. 6-7]
[2/K] '...and the Journalist has said "Mr Irving, we read in today's newspapers that you told the ABC radio that you feel queasy about the immigration disaster that's happened to Britain. Is that your opinion?" and I said "well yes, I have to admit to being born in England in 1938, which was a totally different England, I feel queasy when I look and see what has happened to our country and nobody has stood up and objected it" and he says "well what do you think about black people on the Australian, on the British cricket team then?. How do you feel about that then, the black cricketers?" So I said "that makes me even more queasy..." and so he says right, and I say "no, hang on, it makes me feel queasy but I would like to think we've got white cricketers who are as good as the black ones" and he couldn't climb out of that you see. And then he says "so what you're advocating then is a kind of race hatred." So I said "before I answer your questions, would you tell me what you believe in, as a journalist, an Australian journalist. Do you believe in mixing up all God's races into one super, kind of mixed up race. Are you in favour of racial inter-marriage and racial mixing and he said "well I believe in multiculturalism", of course that's the buzzword, it will come here sooner or later.' [P's speech at Bow Town Hall, 29 May 1992: K4, tab 4, p. 3]
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