Irving v. Lipstadt


Holocaust Denial on Trial, Trial Transcripts, Day 15: Electronic Edition

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    That is very helpful. That takes us to Wednesday
 116th, I think. A day off will be the Thursday but, if I
 2schedule Dr Longerich for Friday 18th, there is a risk
 3that he will not be needed because Professor Evans does
 4not finish until Thursday.
 5 MR IRVING:     Longerich is based in England, is he not?
 6 MR RAMPTON:     He is partly based in England and partly in
 7Munich. If your Lordship would like me to, I will
 8provisionally schedule him for Friday 18th, subject to
 9Thursday being a clear day. If it is not, then we can
10bring him on Monday of the following week.
11 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     He is kind of the last in the band anyway.
12 MR RAMPTON:     He is the most flexible.
13 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     He is the last too, is he not?
14 MR RAMPTON:     No. There is Professor Funke, the Berlin
15political scientist.
16 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     Yes. We have it mapped out for a sufficient
17period of time to enable plans to be made.
18 MR RAMPTON:     Yes we have.
19 MR RAMPTON:     Yes certainly.
20 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     So what now?
21 MR RAMPTON:     I am bit sterile about ideas because I do not have
22further questions on anything else.
23 MR IRVING:     You are not going to cross-examine on the
25 MR RAMPTON:     No. I think probably I am not going to.
26 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     When you say probably, it is getting towards

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 1the time when it has to be certain.
 2 MR RAMPTON:     If I say I am not going to examine on the
 3Adjutants and then I come back next week and say, Oh,
 4I would like to cross-examine on the Adjutants, I foresee
 5a problem. I prefer to leave it in the air, although the
 6air in that particular balloon, if I do not do it now, is
 7probably going to be fairly restricted. Can I put it like
 9 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     Yes. I think that is right really.
10 MR RAMPTON:     I well understand the problem.
11 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     I know you have had quite a task too.
12 MR RAMPTON:     If I do not take the opportunity now I may have a
13problem, I well understand, in trying to find another way.
14 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     I am not going to make a ruling one way or
15the other at the moment.
16 MR RAMPTON:     I am grateful for that.
17 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     I do not think it is a bad thing from
18Mr Irving's point of view or, to be honest, from my point
19of view if we have a short day today because I have fallen
20a bit behind, too.
21 MR RAMPTON:     I am not only slightly behind, I am, like
22Mr Irving and no doubt your Lordship, quite tired as well
23so I would not at all mind.
24 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     Mr Irving, does it not really suit you quite
25well that we should have a short day?
26 MR IRVING:     It does indeed, my Lord. I have a business to run

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 1and a family to run.
 2 MR JUSTICE GRAY:     Of course. So what it comes to is 10.30 on
 4 MR RAMPTON:     I am grateful.
 5 (Adjourned until 10.30 on Monday, 7th February 2000)

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